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Patrick Darren Lauser to my frank friends of Holy worlds, greetings, the Lord bless ye, and remember that the Lord is in our midst. Ye can call me Patrick, or Halas Malakh, or PD until I decide on a handle that I would enjoy having.

Touching cobha, it is a word that I made up, and I place in in Alain, and in the Alauyt language. It is pronounced cone, lava.

In an explanation of what it means:

When you make an Otherworld it is necessary for most of it to be the same as the Familiarworld, yet if the whole work was only describing the events that happened in the Familiarworld it would not be fiction. In one sort of fiction the author tries to make it so that the only reason the story could not have actually happened is that it did not actually happen. The reader is trying to believe that the events actually happened, which is the case with all fiction, and things that happen that make the story physically impossible mar its believability.

In another sort of fiction (fantasy), events that are physically impossible, and are as carefully written by the author as the rest of the story, are included so that the reader may experience things that are physically impossible.

Now there is no word in English, that is, none that I know of, for an event of this kind. But since these events occur in your Otherworld, or at least in your fantasy fiction stories, you would need to have a name created to suit your own stories and Otherworlds. Without it you would have to call these events nothing, or explain them somehow: he was dreaming, it was a miracle, it was magic. Explanation is all I have seen authors do.

I name it.

I include it as a part of my Otherworld, as part of the several languages of my Otherworld. In Alain a thing that is physically impossible in the Familiarworld is called cobha, or a cobha; in Pilane it is called sross; in Robonaz there is a word for it, but I do not know what it is yet.

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So you would be Jay's brother no?

Though indeed with family relations with the creator of this little place, you would scarcely need welcome I bid you welcome nonetheless!

So what is your 'Otherworld' like?

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Yes he is my brother. And you do not want to know what his Otherworld is like: it makes me dizzy and disoriented (to say the least). :)

I will get him to post though, since he doesn't get on all that often.

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Is there any way to say that in simpler words? I think I understand, but I'm not sure. Cobha would be what is physically impossible made possible by what the author writes so the reader can experience what is physically impossible.

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Hi there. That is a highly interesting concept you have concerning Cobha. I got lost halfway through, but it was fascinating, so I have to reread it.

Your Otherworld makes Sir Emeth disoriented!? The Sir Emeth Mimetes whose words and stories have my mind spinning? Whew, that's . . . well, startling. Unheard of. I can't believe it. :shock:

I'd love to learn more about it, though! :) Maybe story artistry just runs through the Lauser family.

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Story artistry at least runs in the Lauser Children, and our parents show evidence of it once in a while. :)

I am still finding time to type in Patrick's response to your question, Brendan, sorry.

Cobha is those natural laws and processes, as a group, which are different from the Familiarworld. So yes, Cobha is what is impossible, made possible by the sub-creation of your imagination. Thus, something which might be magical in our Familiarworld, might be utterly normal in an Otherworld.

All power comes from God, period. It can be used wrongly and out of place, but all power comes from God: even power that comes from demons. God gave it to them, and if you take it, it is not yours. Now, if God gives to your natural races a power, then there is nothing wrong with them using it.

The point is that there is not just Miracles and Black Magic: there is also perfectly natural things like picking up a spoon. Now, cobha is where those categories are differently arranged: containing different acts and abilities, than what we are used to in our world.

Make sense?

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Story artistry at least runs in the Lauser Children, and our parents show evidence of it once in a while. :)

I am still finding time to type in Patrick's response to your question, Brendan, sorry.

Cobha is those natural laws and processes, as a group, which are different from the Familiarworld. So yes, Cobha is what is impossible, made possible by the sub-creation of your imagination. Thus, something which might be magical in our Familiarworld, might be utterly normal in an Otherworld.

All power comes from God, period. It can be used wrongly and out of place, but all power comes from God: even power that comes from demons. God gave it to them, and if you take it, it is not yours. Now, if God gives to your natural races a power, then there is nothing wrong with them using it.

The point is that there is not just Miracles and Black Magic: there is also perfectly natural things like picking up a spoon. Now, cobha is where those categories are differently arranged: containing different acts and abilities, than what we are used to in our world.

Make sense?


Yeah, it is pretty easy to understand when you put it that way.

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Very interesting :) After reading over this thread again, I think I understand it, mostly. So basically cobha is something that is physically impossible in one world, but normal in another?

And despite how confusing your Otherworld is said to be, I would actually love to hear about it :)


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Arias Myles wrote:
Very interesting :) After reading over this thread again, I think I understand it, mostly. So basically cobha is something that is physically impossible in one world, but normal in another?

And despite how confusing your Otherworld is said to be, I would actually love to hear about it :)


Yes, exactly.

I know, I am trying to get it typed in. :)

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Finally! I have looked and looked for a definition of cobha and I have finally found it and, what is more, I understand! Yay!

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Thanks for bumping this thread so that I could see it, Armorbearer...I was just about to start a thread on cobha asking what it really is. :D And thanks Jay/Patrick for your explanations. (I'm not sure who wrote what...) :D

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I love the way you write, Patrick! Do you talk like that too? It's simpler than Shakespeare, and yet more comprehensible than Thomas Mallory, and yet you have the beauty of both, or more. I can't quite put my finger on it, and I'm usually very good at copying styles, but I could read that all day. :D

And it makes perfect sense to me. A word for it is cool. ;)

(It's like reading Tyndale! Tyndale writes like that and its breathtakingly beautiful...)

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He says you are encouraging. :)

Haha, I agree with you on that though, he is really amazing.

He tries to talk like that, but he doesn't always succeed. ;)

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I love the way you write, Patrick! Do you talk like that too? It's simpler than Shakespeare, and yet more comprehensible than Thomas Mallory, and yet you have the beauty of both, or more. I can't quite put my finger on it, and I'm usually very good at copying styles, but I could read that all day. :D

And it makes perfect sense to me. A word for it is cool. ;)

(It's like reading Tyndale! Tyndale writes like that and its breathtakingly beautiful...)


I am encouraged. Thank you!

Tyndale is the best writer of English that ever has, or ever will be.

I love the writing of Tolkien. He is very courteous and humble, and sincerely correct. He is peaceful and independent.

Another author that I like is Rudyard Kipling. He is able to communicate something foreign in an understandable way.

I thought of another way to explain cobha:

There are fictional characters, characters you can never meet in the Familiarworld; there are fictional places, places you can never go to in the Familarworld; there are fictional events, events that never have, and never will happen in the Familiarworld; and there are fictional possibilities, things that are not possible (as far as we know) in the Familiarworld.

And that is cobha.

Pretending that a man can leap fifty feet into the air, seeing that you are already pretending that he exists... in the Otherworld.

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So you're familiar with Tyndale! Cool. You agree with me about Tyndale which explains why you're so good. :D

Very impressive. Keep it up. Write more on here. :)

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Cobha... I might have a little in my books so far, but not a lot as of yet. I am extremely wary of using magic in my writing, but I do not hesitate to create bizarre creatures that can do impossible things... Yeah, I guess that's cobha.

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You're Jay's bro? :shock: Haha, nice. :D

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Elly was referring to the original post, which was made by my brother. :)

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Forgive me if I do not understand your statement, but I'm not sure who that was directed to.
I think she was referring to Tsahraf. :)

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Tsahraf is Jay's younger brother, Elanhil.

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