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 Post subject: Cliches we all know and don't love.
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Who here knows what a cliche is?
*raises hand*
Well, a cliche is a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought, and a very predictable or unoriginal thing or person. Things like:
Girls and guys meeting by literally running into each other
Books starting by the MC waking up by an alarm clock
Etc.

And words and phrases like:

As light as a feather
As bright as the sun
Many hands make light work
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Live and learn.
What goes around comes around
Every cloud has a silver lining
Break a leg
It's raining cats and dogs
It could be worse
Time will tell
All is fair in love and war
Haste makes waste
Life is unfair
When you have lemons, make lemonade.
Opposites attract
A fire station burning down.
As old as the hills.... etcetera.

What are some cliches you have accidentally written, or found in other books?

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As red as a beet.

A concept that I think is cliche: "A young man and a young lady meet and have to do something together, even though they both hate each other. In the process of their mission, they fall in love."

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A concept that I think is cliche: "A young man and a young lady meet and have to do something together, even though they both hate each other. In the process of their mission, they fall in love."


Ooh, I groaned when I read that. LOL

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When you go through rivers of diffuculty, you will not drown.
when you walk through the fire of oppression, you will not be burnt;
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My home? My home is the hills, the streets. My home is the rivers, the forests. My home is the fire, the rain. My home is death, is life. I have no home; so no home has me.

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Just thought I'd mention that though we laugh at clichés, they are often based in reality. I know two couples in real life who literally ran into one another (or he hit her with his tennis racket) when they first met. It's cliché, but it does happen in real life.

Okay, the one that came to mind is that the adopted son of the peasant is actually the heir to the throne.

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Airianna Valenshia wrote:
Just thought I'd mention that though we laugh at cliché’s, they are often based in reality. I know two couples in real life, who literally ran into one another (or he hit her with his tennis racket) when they first met. It's cliché, but it does happen in real life.

Okay, the one that came to mind is that the adopted son of the peasant is actually the heir to the throne.


Haha! That's true... You really have to work on that, God. You're including too many cliches in your writing!

Hehe that's a funny one! Adopted son of the peasant...

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My home? My home is the hills, the streets. My home is the rivers, the forests. My home is the fire, the rain. My home is death, is life. I have no home; so no home has me.

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Also I'll note that those cliche words and phrases are used all the time in real life so it isn't exactly cliche to include them in your fiction. Now if you include the lines "I am your father...", that's a different story...

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 Post subject: Re: Cliches we all know and don't love.
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Yeah, for better examples I looked to google... this is all it gave me! I wanted to give more examples and I could only think of like three or four lol :dieshappy:

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When you go through rivers of diffuculty, you will not drown.
when you walk through the fire of oppression, you will not be burnt;
the flames will not consume you; For I am your God.

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My home? My home is the hills, the streets. My home is the rivers, the forests. My home is the fire, the rain. My home is death, is life. I have no home; so no home has me.

I am Michael Black; Obumbrata et velata!

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Ahhhh, so that's why I didn't know 'Many hands make light work'. I had never heard that one before.

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 Post subject: Re: Cliches we all know and don't love.
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Cliche - Like a little orphan girl going to live with an Aunt. Orphan girls in general, really. Think of all the orphan girls in literature - Anne of Green Gables, Elizabeth Ann from Understood Betsy etc.
Or how about the elements we feel like we must include in a family - a tomboy, a scholastic plain child, and a sickly, beautiful child who imagines odd things.
People who were "once beautiful".
Now that I'm thinking about cliches - are they like... caricatures? An exaggeration or over-representation of a topic that is attractive to romantic writers?
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Ahhhh, so that's why I didn't know 'Many hands make light work'. I had never heard that one before.


Really? I've heard that one hundreds of times! In real life that is.

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A cliche can be anything, really. Dragon Writing Prompts has a fantastic post on various cliches in fantasy, covering cliche settings, storylines, characters, plot devices, and events. It's huge, but I strongly recommend you read it through. http://dragonwritingprompts.blogsome.co ... y-cliches/

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THE Fantasy Cliché -
2. A brave hero steals from the rich and gives to the poor.
-Goes to change plot- Whoopsy...

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When you go through rivers of diffuculty, you will not drown.
when you walk through the fire of oppression, you will not be burnt;
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My home? My home is the hills, the streets. My home is the rivers, the forests. My home is the fire, the rain. My home is death, is life. I have no home; so no home has me.

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Howabout this one--

A petite, gorgeous warrior maiden who runs around scantily clad with long flowing hair, and yet somehow also can beat any man alive in single combat with any weapon.

Usually, she's very brash and bold and hates men, but then her heart is captured by an equally attractive hero and they save the world together. :evil:

lol. I really dislike that one. :P

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Willow Wenial wrote:
Howabout this one--

A petite, gorgeous warrior maiden who runs around scantily clad with long flowing hair, and yet somehow also can beat any man alive in single combat with any weapon.

Usually, she's very brash and bold and hates men, but then her heart is captured by an equally attractive hero and they save the world together. :evil:

lol. I really dislike that one. :P


Lol yeah! And that warrior at the start; seems very kind and polite but then reveals her fierceness!!! Ick! :P

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when you walk through the fire of oppression, you will not be burnt;
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My home? My home is the hills, the streets. My home is the rivers, the forests. My home is the fire, the rain. My home is death, is life. I have no home; so no home has me.

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A petite, gorgeous warrior maiden who runs around scantily clad with long flowing hair, and yet somehow also can beat any man alive in single combat with any weapon.


Ick! That one really rubs me wrong.

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Airianna Valenshia wrote:
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A petite, gorgeous warrior maiden who runs around scantily clad with long flowing hair, and yet somehow also can beat any man alive in single combat with any weapon.


Ick! That one really rubs me wrong.

*Shudders* Ugh. Those are the ones that annoy me. That was one of my issues with Avatar: Neytiri just got on my nerves.

How about the guy wandering the woods, and finds a beautiful maiden singing/dancing and falls in love at first sight?
(I do that one, but I tell it from someone else's POV, so it'll be more amusing)

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A concept that I think is cliche: "A young man and a young lady meet and have to do something together, even though they both hate each other. In the process of their mission, they fall in love."


Ooh, I groaned when I read that. LOL

*slinks away*
Actually, for me, it depends on how that one is handled. Sometimes it can be good, but most of the time . . . ugh.

Lets see . . . The old mentor who tells the young person that the fate of [whatever] rests on their shoulders . . . right before he/she dies of a villain inflicted wound.

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Ciela Rose wrote:
*slinks away*
Actually, for me, it depends on how that one is handled.


That is true...

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Lets see . . . The old mentor who tells the young person that the fate of [whatever] rests on their shoulders . . . right before he/she dies of a villain inflicted wound.


HAHA! Obi-wan Kenobi- You are my only hope!

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when you walk through the fire of oppression, you will not be burnt;
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My home? My home is the hills, the streets. My home is the rivers, the forests. My home is the fire, the rain. My home is death, is life. I have no home; so no home has me.

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Speaking of cliches... Do boring modifiers count?

...loud sound...
...bright sun....
...beautiful maiden...

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Camille Esther wrote:
...loud sound...
...bright sun....
...beautiful maiden...

Hey! That's great! I haven't thought of anything like that! It's always good to have interesting adjectives.
(without of course pulling out the thesaurus and making your readers have no idea what you are talking about the whole time. It's so hard to avoid being extremely far out yet not having cliches!)

-God bless

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Isaiah 43:2: When you go through deep waters, I will be with you.
When you go through rivers of diffuculty, you will not drown.
when you walk through the fire of oppression, you will not be burnt;
the flames will not consume you; For I am your God.

Meet my walruses: Balin, Dwalin, Gloin, and Thorin!


Previously known as Namor Svensteel!


My sub-forum is here here!

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My home? My home is the hills, the streets. My home is the rivers, the forests. My home is the fire, the rain. My home is death, is life. I have no home; so no home has me.

I am Michael Black; Obumbrata et velata!

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He he, yeah. I personally like to slip in a simile (right word?) or a metaphor, or a comparison every now and then, just for a more interesting picture than an adjective or adverb would give.

... their jaws dangling like overripe apples.

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